Interview by Declan Warrington
BN: Please start by recounting the past two days of your life…
The initial 12 hours were chaotic, resembling a whirlpool. However, as things calmed down, our attention shifted. It proved to be a valuable learning experience, as we understand that the past is behind us. We can only grow from encountering situations like this.
I found out while staying in a rented property in Las Vegas. My manager, Glen Jennings, joined me and I could see a hint of sadness on his face. I asked, “What’s the matter with you guys?” and that’s when I received the news. My reaction was a strong expletive of frustration. Interestingly, I had a premonition about it. I had a feeling that something might happen to Keith Thurman, and unfortunately, it seems like my intuition was correct.
“Thurman is unavailable due to a bicep tear.” “Okay, what’s our plan now?” “We have two options, Fundora or [Erislandy] Lara, but it seems more probable to go with Fundora.” “That’s settled then. Let’s make it happen. Any other alternatives?”
In my previous fight, which occurred before the Carlos Ocampo match in June 2023, I encountered an unfortunate incident where I was bitten by a dog two weeks prior. This incident required me to be hospitalized and undergo a complete anesthesia procedure. However, I have fully recovered now and am feeling fine. The only alteration now is that I have a new opponent. It’s an entirely different fighter, but in order to achieve greatness, one must be willing to undertake unconventional actions that set them apart from others. And that’s precisely what I’m doing.
I was more concerned about the dog bite. It really angered me, almost like a wake-up call. It completely focused my attention – I’m actually grateful that it happened because I was becoming too complacent with Thurman. This sensation is something I truly enjoy.
This isn’t a setback at all. I’m completely focused, in the zone, and in good health. I have two more sparring sessions lined up against tall southpaws. On the night of the fight, I’ll simply adapt to whoever they place in front of me.
I was completely focused on one person for a long time, putting in a lot of effort and preparation for about 10 weeks. But then everything changed suddenly, and it felt like stepping into the unknown. The next target was completely different from the previous one, so it required a shift in my mindset. I needed some time to process it, so I took a break and slept on it for 12 hours. After that, I realized that it was a simple decision for me. I don’t know what was happening behind the scenes, but I heard it was chaotic. Thankfully, my manager did a great job of eliminating all the distractions. They told me, “The next target is this guy.” It was the first Amazon Prime card, and we managed to save it despite facing pay cuts. The important thing is that the dream remains the same, and I am still pursuing it. I am still living my life and staying committed to my goals.
BN: How dangerous an opponent did you consider Keith Thurman?
Thurman is a person of the past, equipped with extensive experience, toughness, strength, and power. However, he is no longer a concern for me at the moment. We have not had any communication since his departure, indicating that he has moved on. It is likely that he will retire, marking the conclusion of Thurman’s presence.
BN: How about Sebastian Fundora?
TT: He possesses remarkable skill, yet he exudes an awkwardness that sets him apart. His towering height is evident, making it difficult to imitate his fighting style. However, history has shown us through the tale of David and Goliath that every giant has their weakness. The larger they are, the more resounding and impactful their downfall becomes. It is crucial to bring them down to size. This fighter is undeniably talented, but he also possesses a tenacity that poses a significant challenge to anyone who faces him. In discussions about the 154lbs division, he is consistently recognized as one of the most formidable opponents.
Immediately, we arranged for sparring partners to come down. Eric, one of my assistants, and my manager Glen swiftly organized everything. We managed to have a week of training with taller sparring partners to help me mentally prepare and strategize. It’s not a lot of time, only 12 days’ notice, but that’s just how it is. To achieve greatness, we have to go through this process. Our ultimate aim is to become the most legendary boxing family in history. This is our initial move towards that goal.
BN: Six months on, how do you reflect on your rival Jermell Charlo fighting Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez instead of you?
TT: I was a high-risk, low-reward opponent. However, the ‘Canelo’ fight offered a win-win situation, so it made sense for Charlo to accept it. Unfortunately, he significantly damaged his reputation by fighting subpar. He displayed a cowardly performance. It would have been better if he had fought with more courage, even if he ultimately lost. If Charlo were in my situation and I pulled out, do you think he would face someone like Fundora? I highly doubt it.
[As I watched Alvarez-Charlo, a feeling of disappointment overwhelmed me. It was evident that one of the fighters had no intention of engaging in a real fight. The bout lacked any excitement or substance. Nonetheless, I vowed to pursue him in the future. Eventually, he will move up to the 160lbs weight class, where all the championship belts will be up for grabs. When that time comes, I will find a way to confront him and claim victory.]
BN: Terence Crawford, who last summer seemed on course to fight Charlo, has entered the picture as mandatory challenger to your WBO title…
TT: The anticipation is mounting as the stakes soar. A colossal battle is imminent, promising greatness and a chance to fulfill destiny. There’s no denying his greatness. His accomplishments speak volumes and are truly remarkable. It’s impossible to ignore his incredible skill as a fighter and the astonishing feats he has achieved throughout his career.
If he moves up to 154lbs, he can compete. He possesses the necessary skills and strength. The weight division won’t be an issue for him, as it largely depends on his opponents.
While I don’t mean to disregard the abilities of other fighters, he undoubtedly ranks among the top three pound-for-pound. The remaining spots belong to Naoya Inoue and ‘Canelo’ Alvarez. If, as speculated, Alvarez and Crawford were to face each other, the significant size disparity would be a challenge. However, it’s worth noting that Alvarez initially competed at 154lbs before moving up and gaining more muscle mass. Nevertheless, we should never underestimate Crawford due to his exceptional skills.
I established myself as the dominant force in the 154-pound weight class last year. I fearlessly faced every opponent and emerged victorious, including notable wins against Ocampo and Tszyu who also defeated Tony Harrison and Brian Mendoza. I am determined to further solidify my position as the top 154-pounder in the world. This division belongs to me.
BN: Victory over Jeff Horn transformed your reputation in Australia. Victory over Tony Harrison enhanced your reputation in the US. On Saturday, you top the bill in Las Vegas…
TT: We’ve barely scratched the surface. There are countless colossal battles and incredible chances awaiting us. I’m just embarking on this journey. [I must confront] renowned individuals. Bring them together, and subsequently defeat a few prominent figures. It’s as straightforward as that. My father [the esteemed Kostya], already accomplished a significant portion. Now it’s my responsibility to conclude the remaining half.
I have witnessed numerous battles involving my father, who was truly exceptional and ranked among the all-time greats.
BN: How much influence does your father have on your career in 2024?
TT: There isn’t a lot of involvement. He resides in Russia while I have my own coach, Igor Goloubev, and team. Although my dad occasionally reaches out, our connection goes beyond boxing; we have a father-and-son relationship.
Naturally, there came a time when I felt overshadowed by him. However, presently the focus is not on Kostya Tszyu, but rather on Tim Tszyu. The dynamics have changed. In Australia, the turning point would have been the Horn fight, while on a global scale, it would have been Harrison.
On September 26, 2019, in Sydney, Australia, Kostya Tszyu and his son, Tim, were captured together at Tszyu Boxing Academy during a media event. (Mark Evans/Getty Images)
BN: You’ve again prepared from Vegas for your next fight. Word has it the attention you receive in Sydney makes it harder for you to prepare…
TT: The simplicity of my life is remarkable. During training camp, my routine consists of the gym, home, recovery, gym, home, recovery – and that’s all. Regardless of my location, I am not one to roam around the strip; it’s not my style. I have never been inclined towards such activities. My drive solely revolves around my goals and the pursuit of perfecting my craft. That’s all there is to it.
No matter my location, Vegas is the place that truly allows me to focus solely on boxing, without any other distractions. I have my personal chef and coach by my side, along with my brother Nikita as my training partner, and that’s all I need. We keep things uncomplicated. It’s like entering a battle, where camaraderie is key. Just a group of guys with a determined mindset. We’re right here, fully committed.
The fight is just two minutes away from here. It’s absolutely fantastic, buddy. Go there, complete the task, and return home. It’s as simple as that.
